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Want to Read Currently Reading Read. Refresh and try again. Open Preview See a Problem? Thanks for telling us about the problem. Return to Book Page. Preview — Archeology of Violence by Pierre Clastres. For him, tribal societies are not Rousseauist in essence; to the contrary, they practice systematic Pierre Clastres broke up with his mentor Claude Levi-Strauss to collaborate with Gilles Deleuze and Felix Gattari on their “Anti-Oedipus.
For him, tribal societies are not Rousseauist in essence; to the contrary, they practice systematic violence in order to prevent the rise in their midst of this “cold monster” the state. Only by waging war with other tribes can they maintain the dispersion and autonomy of each group.
In the same way, tribal chiefs are not all-powerful; to the contrary, they are rendered weak in order to remain dependent on the community. In a series of groundbreaking essays, Clastres turns around the analysis of power among South American Indians and rehabilitates violence as an affirmative act meant to protect the integrity of their societies. These “savages” are shrewd political minds who resist in advance any attempt at “globalization.
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Jun 30, Malte rated it really liked it. The Western illusion of human nature as either grim and savage bad or noble and harmonious good still has not recovered from the shock of Pierre Clastres’ work.
Basically, he agrees that societies without a arqueolobia are structurally dependent on regularly waging war, but he does not conclude as the other Hobbesians that clawtres necessarily is a good reason for a sovereign.
In fact, according to Clastres, the arquwologia why these societies constantly wage was is exactly to ward of the sovereign. It sho The Western illusion of human nature as either grim and savage clwstres or noble and harmonious viiolncia still has not recovered from the shock of Pierre Clastres’ work. It should not come as a surprise that this position is extremely awkward in the debate between the various Hobbes- and Rousseau-like figures we in the West have had to listen argue for the last past years or at least since the time of the fool Thycudides.
Or how about the Founding Fathers, e. Well, it seems not. But according to Clastres, it is not because these societies are inherently peaceful or angel-likeit is because they are organized against tyranny: One can see how this does not fit nicely into any existing position in the above mentioned debate. Also, it is not so much a hypothesis of human nature as it is about a way of organizing society.
Or as Marshal Sahlins might have said, the natural propensity for humans to create many kinds of culture. Consequently, Clastres is still very much ignored. Some literature to continue on this path: The above-mentioned year old debate between bad and good human nature reduced to a three hour lecture. With some comparative notes on societies that do neither. Jan 30, Joel rated it really liked it Shelves: The world is ugly!
And their absolutely pessimistic description of the world was met with the general acceptance of the Indians who listened to them. In short, it was not the discourse of the prophets that was unhealthy, but arqueologa, the world in which they spoke, the society in which they lived.
Jun 02, Aung Sett Kyaw Min rated it liked it. Without this book the idea of the war-machine or ‘Introduction to Civil War’ wouldn’t have been possible. Essentially the book repeats its message in different essays, on different topics and in different formats ranging from personal travel narrative, to polemic, to academic essay.
The message is basically that “primitive societies” were not underdeveloped along the path is argued to inevitably lead to the state-form, but that they consciously choose to develop in its very being and mythology p Without this book the idea of the war-machine or ‘Introduction to Civil War’ wouldn’t have been possible. The message is basically that “primitive societies” were not underdeveloped along the path is argued to inevitably lead to the state-form, but that they consciously choose to develop in its very being and mythology practices that ward off the formation and power of the state as political power or power separated from the social body in general.
In contrast, societies-against-the-state are undivided, which is what makes them stateless, and how they remain constitute themselves as such is produced through many different arqueolpgia unique to each tribe and situation. What seems essential to all is that “primitive societies” are societies for war, which has many functions, but which creates an environment too influx in terms of how power is distributed for power to become separated from the society as a whole.
There is a continual breaking off, breaking away, insuring the existence of multiple worlds outside of the tribe, killing off of warriors who would assume power by obligating them seek prestige to the point of death, killing off of chiefs who would assume power over the tribe or lead them in combat, etc etc.
It has an immense pierte for current combatants against the state as it did for the Guarani tribes of South America. View all 4 comments. Jul 16, blakeR rated it it was amazing Shelves: A fascinating account of the relationship between war and primitive society, primarily in South America. It is arqueolofia series of essays that all approach the topic from a slightly different angle. Clastres main premise here is that war is not just a part of these primitive societies, it is inseparable from their existence.
He separates societies into undivided and divided societies. The former are “primitive,” even though this implies that they need to progress to “civilized. This inherently results in a ruling class dominating a ruled class, however mildly it may be. Every society from the “primitive” kingships of Africa to the most totalitarian Nazi Reich including our democracies have been this “divided” society, a society with a State, where people voluntarily give up their freedom.
True egalitarianism, Clastres posits, can arqueoloia be found in so-called primitive societies, where even the chiefs do not have power to rule but can only advise as the society already wishes. Some of the more memorable essays are: Clastres does indeed come across as defensive of these societies, but he is defending them against the academic arrogance that allows people to consider them “pre-civilized,” when in reality their societies seem to be almost as ea, just in another direction.
Indeed, just reading the book will disarm you of any illusions of romanticism. The picture he describes of a permanent state of war is distinctly unappealing as a modern reader. Too much tension and uncertainty, and he never even comes close to suggesting that we should return to such a way of life. His questions are more concerned with origin: Assuming all societies began this way, how did the first divided society clqstres How and why did people voluntarily give up their liberty?
His perspective is so interesting because he considers our divided society as the anomaly, not raqueologia. It results that the essays gradually divulge more on the topic, and build on what you’ve already read, so you feel like their order is a logical progression, even though each was published several years apart during the viiolncia and early 80s.
Sometimes the ideas get a little repetitive, but overall violncoa is enough freshness in each essay that they are able to captivate you. Not Bad Reviews blakerosser Gostei bastante de alguns, e outros nem tanto. Feb 24, Andrew rated it liked it. Title essay is extremely interesting, but some of the included essays are forgettable. Also see de Castro’s very stimulating introduction.
Arqueologia da Violência (compilado de artigos) – Pierre Clastres
Jan 10, Bryn Hammond rated it really liked it Shelves: The two last essays, the title one and the ravishingly titled ‘Sorrows of the Savage Warrior’, make up his start on a work about primitive war, unfortunately lost to us. Essays in Political Anthropology. For me that one had more and hung together more, though it might just be that I came to it 1st.
He begins by undoing old answers to the question, why war? Clastres is a political anthropologist with a political answer: It is not only the effect, but the goal: In other words, primitive afqueologia is a means to a political end. It follows a “centrifugal logic” and cannot cease. War is a permanent fiolncia, active or in abeyance, and its function? As always with Clastres, political independence. For one thing, they must be in a individualistic rivalry with each other.
For another they are wedded to death. Clastres talks about the “infinite task” and the escalation of the exploit: I am led from a boast to another boast, From a feat to another feat.
Archeology of Violence
Clasfres 27, Siggi added it. I have for a long time wanted to dive into the anarchist anthropology of Pierre Clastres. Since this is a collection of articles they are not all as informative but at least two of them blew my mind one on Ethnocide. The introduction was so full of jargon I eventually skipped it and I also skipped his criticism on Marxist anthropology, simply since it wasn’t giving me anything.
Since I am reading political anthropology to get a clearer anarchist view on the development of state and other insti I have for a long time wanted to dive into the anarchist anthropology of Pierre Clastres. Since I am reading political anthropology to get a clearer anarchist view on the development of state and other institutionalized hierarchy I know that Clastres is a pioneer and important, and quite readable also.
Jul 15, Heike rated it really liked it. Now I might not always agree with Clastre’s anarchist leanings, raqueologia he is such an interesting read as academic books go and he is co-guilty of enticing me into choosing social anthropology as a discipline.